Sunday, August 16, 2009

The issue with BBQ's in Mt. Greenwood Park

post is closed to comments, I keep getting people pretending like they are other people and leaving stupid, ignorant and completely uncalled comments. It's people like this on the blog that are ruining it.

Since this has to do with 60655, I stole this from Shaved's blog:

This E-Mail was sent to me:Shavedlongcock@yahoo.com

Dear Shaved:

Recently the Mt. Greenwood neighborhood raised close to a hell of a lot of money to re-new the old Mt. Greenwood Park. In many Chicago neighborhoods the park districts pays for the whole project but in working areas of the city where taxes are being paid big time, it is up to the local residents to pay for the park to be re-newed. Now that the Mt. Greenwood residents worked their asses off and personally paid for what many areas of the city get for free, guess who is now taking over the park? And before the flaming liberals jump all over me and call me racist (and I don't give a fuck if they do) for the last couple of weekends large groups of blacks from other neighborhoods have set up BBQ camp and coolers in the fenced in area surrounding all the new park district swings and playlot.

I took this picture with my cell:




Now people from all over come to this park and BBQ and enjoy themselves but not on the fenced in playlot area. Smoke from their BBQs are going into the faces of the kids playing on the new playlot - which can get kids with Asthma sick and they are openly drinking alcoholic beverages on the kid's playlot too. You can see all the coolers in that picture. Filled with beer and alcohol. Now just imagine a big group of whites going to a all black Park, setting up smoking BBQs next to their brand new swings and playlot and drinking a bunch of booze. What do you think would happen? And the worse problem is that the park district employees are afraid to say anything to any person of color at Mt. Greenwood Park. They have no park permit, they are in an area that doesn't even allow cooking and drinking and littering their ass off. Can you please post this and see if anybody knows what I can do to stop this behavior and illegal activities?

Sincerely, Justine - Mt. Greenwood

Any ideas?

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

I can understand the hesitancy of the CPD to shut them down - look at the Gates incident. Perhaps the thing to do is join in. By that, I mean bring BBQ and coolers - with alcohol. Then the police can shut the whole thing down without being accused of picking on anyone in particular.

Anonymous said...

The best thing to do is what most of you have been doing right along. Say "GOOD-MORNING" AND "GOOD AFTERNOON" OR "HOW ARE YOU TODAY?" The more you make them feel welcome, the more will come. They go back to the ghetto and tell their friends,"HEY MAN THEM THERE HONKEYS LIKE US THERE. GRAB YO GRILLS, WE GOIN' BACK TOMMORROW, BRING THE WHISKEY TOO! stand back, give them a evil stare and when they say,"WHACH YA-ALL LOOKIN' AT", just smile and keep glaring at them. They don't like that, especially the FAT ones..

Nippsy Russell said...

This is just really f**cked up. When I was reading the posts about these B.B.Q.'s, I thought they were having them out in the playing fields or the outside perimeter of the jogging track. These assholes should be arrested and fined for this kind of behavior. For Christ sake if you smoke a cigarette in public these day's you get looks from people like you just killed someone. I for one plan on making the escapades of these racists (Yes they are the racists) a lot less pleasant. Just carry fire extinguishers in your cars. This crap has got to end before there is a real problem with violence. And that is the plan, for whites to lose it and pound on someone. Put out their B.B.Q. and let them start something. You are the concerned citizen watching out for the well being of our children.zed

Anonymous said...

Ok, this is absolutely horrible. DID ANYONE CALL THE POLICE? If you care enough to post this on the blog did you call the police for service? If we don't continue to call they won't come at all. You all know the more calls to a beat the more cars we get. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. CALL!!! They may take a while to get there, but they will come. Contiune to call. Take pride in Mt. Greenwood once and for all and stop complaining unless you are willing to do something about it. We have to take our park back right now Forget black/white/yellow this is an issue of no permit no bbq! They won't take the time to get a permit so the more we have cpd up there they will go away. We have to make it hard for them and uncomfortable. Every time I see a kid on a bike/skate board, in the park I yell at them. I have NO PROBLEM telling people to get out if they are not following the posted rules. I guess we need to have another sign posted for no bbq's no drinking. Please take the time to call 911 - you have a phone you should be doing this. Do it for your kids.

rkmelissa said...

If I would have seen this, I would have called the police. White/Black doesn't matter to me, you should not be allowed to have a BBQ at the park - I was under the impression that they were BBQ by the baseball fields with a permit. So, if I go and set up a BBQ - I wonder what would happen - wait I know, the Park District or Police would give me some sort of ticket. Maybe we should try it and see what happens...

Catherina said...

Dear Patriots,

The Chicago Tea Party is holding an “In District Recess Rally” on Saturday, August 22nd, 11 a.m. – 1 p.m., at Congressman Dan Lipinski’s office, 6245 South Archer Avenue. Congressman Lipinski hasn’t announced where he stands on this nationalized health care plan we need to make it clear that WE THE PEOPLE demand health care freedom.

On Saturday, September 12th, 11 a.m. – 1 p.m., we will be holding a “9/12 March on Michigan Avenue”. Attendees are asked to come to the intersection of Randolph and Michigan Avenue. Bring your sign and your friends. Fight for health care freedom and demand fiscal accountability and responsibility.

Please join us and make it clear that Barack Obama’s hands are not welcomed on our health care! HANDS OFF!

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Letting the silent majority speak!

Catherina Wojtowicz,
The Chicago Tea Party Patriots

Anonymous said...

FYI,

I was driving down 111th at the same time and saw this biggin in the playlot. This was yesterday at about 5:30pm. There was four (4) cpd squad cars there in the parking lot of the park with the po's just standing there doing nothing.

Talked to some people in the know about why they were all there. Was told the night before there was a group of shit heads who confronted some of the local kids. The local kids made a stand and basically said FU. The shit heads then said they were coming back the next day (saturday 15 Aug) to shoot the park up.

So anyone who says "did you call the police" FU, they were there and did nothing with these people.

Put a 15 foot fence around the playlot and tell people to show an ID, if not from the area Collect a million dollars in your area and build a park and hang out there.

The playground was built with people from the area for people from the area with their money because the city would not pay for it. F everyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

in and around?

how come you did not post my message about Fran in the last post?

I am just stating the facts. She works for Ginger. I do not care how nice she is but how do you think she will do anything different?

Anonymous said...

keep calling and wait until they come, if they refuse to do their job demand a supervisor, if he/she refuses call IPRA and get a CR# for failing to take police action and cowardice.

Det. Shaved Longcock said...

I am filing theft charges due to you stealing my post!

LOL

Glad your sharing the information. People should know what is going on in their neighborhood and parks.

I hope some solution can be found.

inandaround60655 said...

in and around?

how come you did not post my message about Fran in the last post?

I am just stating the facts. She works for Ginger. I do not care how nice she is but how do you think she will do anything different?

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I didn't post your reply because my ass would be on the line. Defamation of character and all that stuff. I do like Fran and she is a hard worker and should be recognized, however, when I said she should run for Alderman, I was being sarcastic. I am voting republician or independent. I'm DONE with the democrats. Hope that answered your question.

Anonymous said...

Det. Shaved Longcock said...
I am filing theft charges due to you stealing my post!

LOL

Glad your sharing the information. People should know what is going on in their neighborhood and parks.

I hope some solution can be found.

August 16, 2009 8:39 PM
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I hope some solution can be found? What is that? You are the police and you should try to find a solution. You call the alderman's office and explain this email and ask for help. All you do is talk, talk , talk and shake that tin can. Do something........

inandaround60655 said...

I hope some solution can be found? What is that? You are the police and you should try to find a solution. You call the alderman's office and explain this email and ask for help. All you do is talk, talk , talk and shake that tin can. Do something........

August 16, 2009 9:23 PM

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This neighborhood is filled with cops, regardless, WE SHOULD ALL BE CALLING. One or two, here and there, are not enough voices to be heard. I took this from Shaved's site as someone emailed it to him. He could have chose not to post, but he did. The question is, how many people reading this blog or shaved's blog have ever called on anything? Mt. Greenwood is losing everything quickly. Walgreens is gone (the lot where it was supposed to go is for sale), the "business district" looks old and worn, and now people are afraid to use the park in the neighborhood they live in, the park that they helped pay for, why? Because everyone is quivering in their shoes because they are afraid of the black people. Most of the people in this neighborhood are not confrontational and would rather go somewhere else than get into a screaming match with people whose first words when confronted will be "it's because I'm black." Daley has made the minority the majority. They are his voting base. But on the bright side, now that the liberals on the northside are being victimized by the west, east and southsiders who are travelling to rob them, they are making some noise, which hopefully will result in some change. I'm not holding my breath, but you never know. I was born and raised in this city, and truthfully, I am disgusted and fed up. But, here I am stuck and here I will stay. Voices need to be heard and faces need to be out there to be seen. If you cower in your houses or travel elsewhere to take your kids to the park, then you might as well hand over the keys to the neighbhorhood.

j.o.b. said...

In and Around 60655-

Thank you so much for this post! Just like NIPPSY RUSSELL, I was under the impression that the parties were held in the (fields), and at NIGHT.

This disgusts me, The confrontational side of me wishes I was there. Seriously, if you are a black man, or woman, please try to defend this to me. Better yet, if you are a tree hugging, troop hating, Obama voting ultra liberal, please try to explain this photo to me. I dare you to use the whole "Social inequality" Arguement. ANY TAKERS?

August 16, 6:45 p.m.-

I respect your opinion. I truly do. I'll even admit that I almost feel guilty being there. I DO NOT live in Mt Greenwood and I am not from here, but my fiance was born and raised here. I have heard the story of how this park came about, and I truly thank them for doing it.

My daughter loves this park. It is so much better than any suburban park I've ever taken her to. However I try to do my part. I used to think that I picked up other peoples' garbage out of guilt. But I now realize in my older age that it is because, somehow, I've become a decent person, repectful of others' property.

So in closing, I understand your hostility, I TRULY DO. But please don't put me in the same category as the a###oles in the photo. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Isnt that GINGER standing there telling all will listen about the new 19th ward lovable, Oshea by name. sure looks like her.

Don't Give up said...

RE: The question is, how many people reading this blog or shaved's blog have ever called on anything

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I am the police and I call everyone and anyone because the more noise you make, the more you get.

Here's a perfect example..a city water crew tore up the parkway to fix a small leak coming from the hydrant and just one year ago, I had new sod put down and it was beautiful. They left me with a mound of dirt. When the next crew showed up a week later, they dumped dirt and told me I would only get grass seed. I asked for a supervisor and he would not give me a name at the water dept so I started with a number in my FOP book, never said I was the police by the way and just started making calls. Three hours later and about 11 calls not including the mutiple times I was transferred, I actually spoke to someone who called the crew and told them to give me sod. By the way, multiple times, I was told that I don't own the parkway and my response was that when the city, cut it, watered it and paid Spring Green to weed ti, would be the day that they had something to say to me about who owns the parkway. Two days later, I get up and the idiots put down Patchmaster furry looking stuff and not sod. I made another phone call to the person I spoke with and the next day, the crew was back, scooping up all the patchmaster stuff and excess dirt and by the time they left, I had beautiful green sod.

The moral of the story: Don't give up and don;t take no for an answer. I never said I was the police to anyone and I was a persistent pain in the butt. In fact, I told them that if I had to scoop up the patchmaster stuff, I would leave it in buckets in front of the mayors office.

Don't let these "people" and I use the term loosely, take your park and take your neighborhood without a fight. This for your kids safety and your safety because it's just a matter of time before the gangbangers show up with baby momma in tow, start representing and shots are fired.

Anonymous said...

saturday night i was in my back yard around 9pm. I then saw what appeared to be a large balloon with a fire inside of it moving slowly north. I know I am not the only one who saw this. Does anyone have any idea of what it was???

Anonymous said...

wait until the basketball courts come,fun fun fun!

Anonymous said...

i just may have to call some of my friends from da ville to take care of this!

Nippsy Russell said...

To 3:02 A.M.
I saw some of those things out at the nascar race in Joliet this year. It is like a little round kite about a foot high with hole at the bottom. I think they use a tea light candle or something. Like the big hot air balloons the heat makes it float.

Nippsy Russell said...

Here's a link that shows how to make candle kites.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/815105/easy_build_flying_hot_ufo_balloon/

Anonymous said...

If you want to ensure that the Police take what we deem to be appropriate action, call 911 and stand by until they arrive. Speak with them in a professional manner and ask that the violators be issued a citation. Tell them you are willing to be a complaining witness.

Anonymous said...

When I was in that playlot earlier in the week, it was full of trash. Smashed and cut up pop cans, cigarette butts ETC. I picked up as many of the cans as possible, so kids running would not cut themselves. We are complaining about but we are not taking care of it.
Lot of parents were just fine with leaving all the trash on the ground.
Concerned? talk to the park sup, call the police, get involved. Something as little effort as cleaning it up goes a long ways. We wanted a nice park for our kids lets take care of it.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
saturday night i was in my back yard around 9pm. I then saw what appeared to be a large balloon with a fire inside of it moving slowly north. I know I am not the only one who saw this. Does anyone have any idea of what it was???

August 17, 2009 3:02 AM

Those were released from a block party on 113th wastanue (sp) I kept waiting for it to fall on someones house.. sucker floated away pretty far

Anonymous said...

yep, you guys sound like a bunch of stereotypical mt. greenwood racists all right. never realized it went hand-in-hang with "right wing assholes" in this area too.

it's a public park. people are supposed to hang out there. if they're breaking the rules, call the damn police. and if the police don't show up, it's probably because they have better things to do than worry about people having a bbq.

PATRIOT said...

yep, you guys sound like a bunch of stereotypical mt. greenwood racists all right. never realized it went hand-in-hang with "right wing assholes" in this area too.

August 17, 2009 11:56 AM

Ooh, the whining leftist liberal played the race card. (Yawn!)

We were "racists" when we sounded the alarm when they were destroying Marquette Park.
We were "racists" when we objected to them destroying Dan Ryan Woods.
We were "racists" when we objected to them taking over Ashburn, Roseland, Englewood, Chicago Lawn, Gresham, Morgan Park and all the other neighborhoods that are now hotbeds of murders, stabbings, drug use, gang activity, shootings, robberies, mama drama domestics and all the other behaviors that come from the savage jungle subculture.

WEAK-MINDED LIBERALS WHO EMBRACE THE BLACK SUBCULTURE CALL THOSE OF US WHO OPPPOSE IT "RACISTS." I SAY WE ARE "PATRIOTS."

Anonymous said...

To: 11:56
Thanks for the comment. I am a lifelong Mount Greenwood resident who is also disgusted with much of what I read on this blog. I know many other people in this community who don't think or act this way. Some of the regular posters remind me of the loud and beligerent drunk shouting at the end of a bar - they guy most people wish to avoid. Unfortunately, the loudest and most ignorant purport to speak for everyone. They don't. Mount Greenwood, often and unfairly, is painted with a wide, ugly brush. I was so pleased when I discovered this blog a month ago and read the memories of the neighborhood. It was fun and interesting--anyone else remember Mickey's the home of the onion burger? That show's how old I am. But now,the haters outnumber the people who would use this blog for the wonderful resource it could have been.

Anonymous said...

That is exactly why my family did not donate to the park because of that reason. It is ashamed that this neighborhood paid for something that we can't use. Good Luck on your search for an answer

Anonymous said...

But now,the haters outnumber the people who would use this blog for the wonderful resource it could have been.

August 17, 2009 2:43 PM

Yes, I hope you enjoy your walks down memory lane. Those of us who want to preserve this fine area and create fond memories for our children and grandchildren are not "haters."

We do not want to lose MtG the way ALL the other South side neighborhoods have been lost. Yes, ALL of them!

This is the Alamo, folks. Lose it here and where will you live? North? Take another look. the 016th is going too.

Anything you do not agree with is met with "hater" or "racist." The irony is that you Obama voters are the biggest haters and racists in this country.

Anonymous said...

from 2:47

Yes, I did vote for O'Bama. And I will again in 4 years. And bite me.

Anonymous said...

Off SUBJECT:Forgive me In @ Around but the rest of the community should be made aware of this.

Thank you to the off duty policemen who caught the three juveniles egging cars this morning on 111th and Spaulding. These mopes at 1104X Spaulding should be tarred and Feathered.

And again the juveniles where all sons of Chicago Police Officers.
This has gone on all summer.

And as usual in the 19th Ward all
were released from the twenty second district station. WHY?
WHY? CLOUT and more POLICE Corruption.

Anonymous said...

Off SUBJECT:Forgive me In @ Around but the rest of the community should be made aware of this.

Thank you to the off duty policemen who caught the three juveniles egging cars this morning on 111th and Spaulding. These mopes at 1104X Spaulding should be tarred and Feathered.

And again the juveniles where all sons of Chicago Police Officers.
This has gone on all summer.

And as usual in the 19th Ward all
were released from the twenty second district station. WHY?
WHY? CLOUT and more POLICE Corruption.

August 17, 2009 8:02 PM

If they are juveniles arrested for a misdemeanor, they will be released to their parents. Clout has nothing to do with it.

Anonymous said...

as a african american i find this site to be completely racist. You dumb red necks type away and hide behind your words but to afraid to say it to a brothers face. I think im gonna have my family reunion up there bring all my kin folk in from mississippi and throw a big old brother bash. I bet none of you haters say a word. Its a city park the picture you posted was of good people having a good time what is wrong that. I have 6 children they all deserve a nice park to play at. Im a single parent and I tell my children not to respect any red necks like your posters. I will be up there all week just because i can. I think after i leave the park i will head over to one of those shamrock bars and have a drink.

Anonymous said...

7:43. I didn't realize our wonderful President was Irish. You're part of the problem, let the animals do what they want, can't we just get along? Now you bite me. Jerk!

Anonymous said...

My question is wether any police or firefighters would even live in Mt. Greenwood if the city lifted the residency requirement.

Anonymous said...

I don't think it has anything to do with her color. I know hefer-haters when I hear 'em.

Anonymous said...

IF THEY LIFT THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT WE WILL BE THE NEXT DETROIT

Anonymous said...

To 9:08 ( you didn't post a name either)
Why do you assume that everyone on this blog is a redneck and feels the same way?Sounds racists to me. Why do you assume just because one is white they are racist? You are just as bad as the rednecks you blog about. Come to our neighborhood park, just abide by the same rules we do. No drinking or smoking in the playground. Secondhand smoke kills and why on earth would you drink and then drive your kids home? make sure your kids are respectful of others as we do with our own. Pick up your garbage, that is what the cans are for. What neighborhood are you from? I bet you have a few nice parks as well and did not lift a finger to get it unlike our community did.

Anonymous said...

7:43 - Your mama must be so proud that you can actually string some words together to almost make sense. Yes, you are a prime example of an Obama voter.

9:08 - I see you in the neighborhoods I work in. Most of you are single parents, and unlike white people, most of you have at least 6 children, all with different fathers. The majority of you big mouthed mamas are on some form of "disability," get Section 8 vouchers and virtually unlimited welfare benefits including free food and health care.

For decades you have been deceived by your bogus "reverends" and patronized by the politicians who buy your vote with a Link card. You are disgusting morons who think the words "hater" and "racist" will get you more freebies.

Your children "deserve" nothing, because their mothers and fathers do nothing for society. Yes, you will be at the park all week because you don't have to be at the welfare office for two more weeks to pick up your check.

Take a look at a white neighborhood. You could have all this on your own block if you would take care of your own filthy properties: mow your lawn, clean up the back yard, fix the broken windows, paint the house, and kick the gangbangers out.

Right down the street from you are parks that used to be the envy of the civilized world. They lie in ruins courtesy of you and your ignorant offspring.

You pigs are happy to wallow in your own garbage. Perhaps someday you will wake up and decide to act like civilized human beings. Until then stay away from our neighborhoods.

Floyd Lawson said...

9:08 is a hoax. Just by the way he's writing you can tell it's some asshole race bater that's been screwing with this blog for a while now. The black people bringing their kids to play in the park is not the issue here. If these lowlife punks were of any ethnicity that were inside the fenced in area of the play lot having a B.B.Q. it would be an outrage. With all the money the residents had to raise and donate to get that park built. And to think there is nothing wrong with this kind of behavior as August 17, 2009 2:43 PM does, go on and post your address and invite all these morons (white, black, yellow, red or otherwise) to a nice friendly get together at your house. Include the white teenage punks that do their best to wreck the place up there every night too. You dummy.

Anonymous said...

as a african american i find this site to be completely racist. You dumb red necks type away and hide behind your words but to afraid to say it to a brothers face. I think im gonna have my family reunion up there bring all my kin folk in from mississippi and throw a big old brother bash. I bet none of you haters say a word. Its a city park the picture you posted was of good people having a good time what is wrong that. I have 6 children they all deserve a nice park to play at. Im a single parent and I tell my children not to respect any red necks like your posters. I will be up there all week just because i can. I think after i leave the park i will head over to one of those shamrock bars and have a drink.

Rednecks? At least you are upfront about your racism...Whites are the minority in this country, especially Chgo...People like you complain that only black people go to jail, only black people are getting shot, sorry to say it but blacks are shooting blacks, these kids have no disregard for life at all. As far as the parks go, why are we racist because we are asking everyone to follow the rules? You bitch about racism but you are the first one to call one of your homies a ni**er..Why is it ok for you to bring down your own people? You want a nice place to go with your family, guess what so do we...

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