Monday, June 15, 2009

Caps Meeting

2211's CAPS meeting is scheduled for this Thursday at Mt. Greenwood Park at 7:00.

Here is our opportunity to complain about the complete lack of police presence in 2211! If we pack the house, they will have to listen to us, right?

51 comments:

Anonymous said...

There's no point in going to a CAPS meeting unless the city's movers and shakers are there.

Are Daley, Rugai, Jody, and the Deputy Supt for Patrol going to be there?

inandaround60655 said...

That's the problem. Everyone bitching about what needs to be done, but nobody willing to participate in trying to change it. Leave it to someone else to fix. Okay, so nobody show up and let's all look like hypocrits. But, when your house is broken into, don't blame 2211 (since it is not their fault they are East), don't blame Rugai (since if we don't care enough to voice our opinion, why should she).

Okay, you CAN blame Daley (since he refuses to hire more cops because he has to hold the purse close to the chest in case we get the Olympics) and you CAN blame the $310,000 a year Superintendent (since he cannot think on his own).

Anonymous said...

Rugai is co chair of the police and fire committee so I think it is very fair to blame her for the lack of police service. The 2nd dist has cars detailed to sit at 116th and church and 110th and racine where murders occured earlier this year. there have been over 200 murdrs in the city this year not every district wastes manpower by leaving cars sitting there for months at a time. On midnights in 022 there are often no cars available for calls because two cars are sitting doing nothing at the above mentioned spots and every other car is on the east side of the district answering calls bt 2211 is completly without police service for hours at a time. So far it hasbeen just thefts burglaries and a few robberys but someone will get killed eventualy and I do Blame the commander of the 22nd dist and Ginger Rugai we pay taxs and deserve police service.

inandaround60655 said...

good points. But, this why we have to show support and outrage at what is happening in 22. We are sitting ducks. We have people from Gary coming here to robs us. United we stand, divided we fall.

Village Voice said...

It's amazing ... I love 9:59 ... No point in going ... then quit whining ... of course there is a point in going ... to complain if that is what you want to do ... point out the problems in your area ... make notes so you can call them on the carpet if changes or improvements are not made ... but do not go because the movers and shakers are not there ... get real ... you have just become part of the problem ... not the solution ... crawl back in your cave and hide ... bitch on the blog, because that is all the risk you will take ... if you have not figured it out by now ... YOU and the other constituents in 60655 are the ones who will make the difference ... not Daley, Not Jody Weis, certainly not Rugai, or Deputy Superintendant Dugan ... YOU make it happen ...quit waiting for someone else to take charge because you are afraid to ... If police response is slow ... get a petition started ... organize a march on the station ... call the media ... make a stink ... squeky wheel gets the oil ... I'll bet right now you will not have 25 people at the CAPS meeting ... Off the soap box for now.

Anonymous said...

Dear Voice:

Complain to whom? The beat officers and their sergeant? That's my point. These guys sent to the meetings are not policy makers or decision makers.

. . . make notes so [we] can call them on the carpet . . . ?
Again, do we want to call the beat officers and the sergeant on the carpet over something they can't control?

The time to raise hell is during the police department's budget hearings. The decision makers are present. And so is the media!

How about this idea. If we can't count on a CPD police presence for 2211, perhaps the city should enter into a mutual aid agreement whereby Oak Lawn, Alsip, Merrionette Park, and Evergreen Park agree to respond to emergencies on 2211 on a paid basis. I would feel a lot safer knowing that help is not coming from 87th and Halsted.

CPmom said...

I'll be there, and I am reminding all of my neighbors....

Anonymous said...

How about this idea. If we can't count on a CPD police presence for 2211, perhaps the city should enter into a mutual aid agreement whereby Oak Lawn, Alsip, Merrionette Park, and Evergreen Park agree to respond to emergencies on 2211 on a paid basis. I would feel a lot safer knowing that help is not coming from 87th and Halsted.

CAPS/smoke and mirrors/ Please don’t take offense

POSSIBLE TAX; HOME EQUITY PROGRAM

How many more homes are in foreclosure? Look at all the vacants. We need a home equity program to save us from the section eights being placed in the neighborhood and the vacant properties... Will we be the next Ashburn or Scottsdale?

LACK OF POLICE

It would be worth an additional police property tax.

We should approach Merrionette Park and sign a contract for an extra police patrol the way the citizens do in unincorporated Cook County. This neighbor hood is another Marquette Park. We have lost the neighborhood; the police department is hiding certain facts, the recent arrests (3) from Harvey at Kennedy Park, the punks from Chicago Heights at 10900 s Ridgeway... (Pellet gun painted black to look real)

POLICE PROBLEM:

The commander of the police district should be hired the way the school principals are hired by an elected impartial board...and given a two or three year contract.
The community must have input.

THE OTHER MAJOR PROBLEM:

I HAVE BEEN TOLD by several policemen not assigned to the 22th station that the 22th station also has the most merit(patronage) supervisors in the City, therefore they are only loyal to the politicians who made them(19TH WARD). I have no proof, not to assassinate any ones character.

Every year my neighbor a policeman white shirt tries to sell me a ticket to the alderwoman's golf outing.

The managing officers should be rotated through out the force so that fresh people with experience will work in our community, we should get the best and the brightest who are successful else where, that's just a good business principle, which is also fair.

Rotate in patrol men (the REAL POLICE) from through out the city who would appreciate a change of scenery. The depressed areas should not get the brightest and the best.

FIRE PROBLEM

We should also consider another problem. NO paramedic ambulance in the neighborhood. Always east.

We called the CFD for an ambulance and it responded to 108 and Homan from Mt. Sinai Hospital. Were was our ambulance? (CFD 17 in Roseland on the Dan Ryan)

A paramedic ambulance should be stationed in our community at all times. I believe we need a private paramedic unit in the area at all times, especially with our older population. We deserve the best; the people in this community are our greatest resource, why are we denied professional emergency medical treatment. How dare you make us wait twelve to fifteen minutes for an ambulance from the west side? Please don’t give me that bullshit that a fire truck will respond. You cannot get young fire men to work at the fire house on Albany.

THE POLICE RESPONSE, FIRE RESOURCES AND OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS MUST BE OUR PRIORITY.

THE SCHOOLS ARE BECOMING SUCCESSFUL AFTER YEARS OF STRUGGLE AND FRUSTRATION.

We should demand no more or no less of the police and fire.

May be when we get the service we pay for that others receive we can worry about the neighborhood blight of 111th Street, the broken promises at 111th and Kedzie.

A loyal resident and disgruntled white collar city employee in fear of a pink slip......

Village Voice said...

June 15, 2009 6:47 PM

If you do not think that the beat officers and the sector Sgt. cannot be held accountable then you are naive. How many policeman do you want to patrol one of the lowest crime ares in the city ???

I said it before ... it is up to YOU to make a difference

Mary Carol said...

This neighborhood will never see what we pay for until the neighborhood turns ghetto, then Mt. Greenwood will have plenty of assigned squad cars and more than one ambulance. For years, Amb. 17 can be found east of the Ryan and we are left with nothing when we need it. Next closest ALS ambulance is at Kedzie and Columbus Dr. or 77th and Pulaski.
If CAPS is not the answer, march on the 19th ward office, demand a series of meetings with Ginger, demand to see plans implemented, demand to see positive change. We need to be well organized with our wants, be relentless and be loud to get and keep her attention. I am not a good leader but I am willing to be involved and help and lend my time and voice to this.

Anonymous said...

So unless we starting shooting one another, we are not as important. Nice.

Anonymous said...

Anyone have contacts in the media that could cover the CAPS meeting? Everyone needs to go online and become a Reverend.

Anonymous said...

Am I missing something? Aside from some random grafitti, a garage break-in here and there, and folks blowing stop signs I don't see why the alarm is raised for more police patrol? Is crime out of control here and I am just not aware of it?

Anonymous said...

"Am I missing something? Aside from some random grafitti, a garage break-in here and there, and folks blowing stop signs I don't see why the alarm is raised for more police patrol? Is crime out of control here and I am just not aware of it?"

Yeah your missing something. Visit http://gis.chicagopolice.org/CLEARMap/startPage.htm
and let us know if you feel the same way after you check this out

rightisright said...

If you do not think that the beat officers and the sector Sgt. cannot be held accountable then you are naive. How many policeman do you want to patrol one of the lowest crime ares in the city ???

I said it before ... it is up to YOU to make a difference

June 16, 2009 1:46 AM


Voice, As a 19yr Police veteran I can tell you that you are the one who is naive. The Patrolmen and Sgts on the street cannot make the policy. You need higher up the food chain. A meet with the Commander is where the community needs to start. That followed by a complaint blitz to Ginger.

Anonymous said...

Village Voice said...
June 15, 2009 6:47 PM

If you do not think that the beat officers and the sector Sgt. cannot be held accountable then you are naive. How many policeman do you want to patrol one of the lowest crime ares in the city ???

I said it before ... it is up to YOU to make a difference

June 16, 2009 1:46 AM

1. The beat officers and sergeants CANNOT be held accountable for how their exempt command-level superiors deploy them.

2. Much of 2211 is separated from the rest of the city by two sets of train tracks. We're entitled to some police presence. Currently, we frequently have no police presence.

3. We have many seniors on 2211. They are targets of home invaders, burglars, and con men. They deserve a quick response when they need the police.

4. Crime is only low on 2211 because it's so high in the rest of the city. Everything is relative. The potential for crime on 2211 is much higher than the potential for crime in the rest of the city for two reasons: 1. the large number of seniors and 2. the amount of valuable property in the homes on 2211.

5. If I was ever naive, I lost it after about a week in a ghetto beat car in the 70's.

Anonymous said...

Burglarys thefts and robberys are up in mt greenwood. At the moment we do not have a lot of violent crime hopefully it stays that way but one of those robberys could turn into a murder pretty easy.

inandaround60655 said...

Is everyone locking their doors...It amazes me when I see front doors open and screens unlocked. I understand it's summer and the kids are in and out, but if the opportunity is there, someone is going to take it.

Anonymous said...

I am not a police officer just married to it for over 20 years. I just do not understand the thinking of average white people why would you call the 22nd district with your police calls thats what 911 is for the desk is not going to start dispatching calls as they come in from disgruntled citizens. i also live in Mt. Greenwood I have never had a response problem when I have called into 911. I guess you just need to know how to say what you want to say and amazing the police respond!!! Going to a CAPS mtg is your right make sure you have your facts straight and those there will be more likely to listen. I sit on my front porch on & off all day & I see several 22nd dist cars driving by. Unfortunately or maybe fortunately we live in a community that we do not need to have the police here 24/7 and sometimes relying on the good old neighbor is all that is needed. I feel since most of us have police fire and other city employees living on our blocks we are very lucky to be able to rely on each other when needed. I can truly say that i am very proud to be a 22nd dist. police officers wife and our children are very proud of their father they are doing the best they can with what this city has given them. How about a little more support for the police officers and complain or quit voting in the people that make the decisions. signed a republican that owes no one from the 19th ward

Anonymous said...

We appreciate the officers and their dedication to duty and the citizens of Chicago. What we don't appreciate are the people that put restrictions on their job and the amount of protection here. I know we have not had the problems most neighborhoods have, but with the economy the way it is, believe me it's coming and full force. We need to voice it before it's too late instead of sit on our porch day in and out and think it can't happen here. It has, it can and it will.

Anonymous said...

I can sit on my porch day in and out because that is my choice. However I am far from being stupid as to what is happening in my own neighborhood. I think the mentality of the people in this neighborhood is extremely naive and when shit hits the fan its seems like there is nothing but knee jerk reactions. pay attention to whats around you, keep your doors locked when you are in your yard or leave for that quick trip to the hard ware store. There are plenty of punks that are living in the neighborhood as out of the neighborhood committing these crimes. When we make it easy for them shame on us!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Am I missing something? Aside from some random grafitti, a garage break-in here and there, and folks blowing stop signs I don't see why the alarm is raised for more police patrol? Is crime out of control here and I am just not aware of it?

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Please tell me you're joking.

Village Voice said...

June 16, 2009 1:46 AM
rightisright said...

Voice, As a 19yr Police veteran I can tell you that you are the one who is naive.


June 16, 2009 1:55 PM

1. The beat officers and sergeants CANNOT be held accountable for how their exempt command-level
superiors deploy them.

I think both of you misinterpret my message somewhat ... having over twenty years experience on the job myself ... I can say the following ... It is my understanding that two cars are assigned 2211 and 2211A , as well as the park car 2205 I think that spends much time on Bt. 2211 (or do my eyes deceive me). The Sgt. monitors the computer and can keep the dispatcher from dispatching paper jobs to 2211 out of the sector, so the Sgt. CAN control this. The Sgt. can also control the P.O.'s from staying down on a job for an hour when it should only take 15 minutes, Right? And the citizens of the neighborhood have the right to question and hold the beat officers, sector Sgt. accountable for the problems on their beat at beat meetings. If the officers can provide proof that they are being deployed to the other side of the district, off their beat, and out of the sector for their tour, than they, the citizens of the Bt. 2211 should petition the commander for answers why. Now having said that, we all know that will not happen, because the citizens of Bt. 2211 will not show up to the beat meeting. You will have the elderly persons who show up and care but I am willing to bet that the turnout for the meeting will be sparse and this will be the only forum where they will complain. Sorry guys but the truth is the truth. I just hope to hell that I am proven wrong and the line will be out the door.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree with the post about the mobs of kids hanging at corners. My daughter has been harassed repeatedly when walking by these kids. Remarks range from the sexually explicit to politically inappropriate. One kid told her she was the reason the economy was f****ed up because she did not go the a catholic school. In winter, if you walk by, you get gang pelted with snow balls. How many of us had our cars hit as well? As a kid, I would never have spoken to any adult the way these kids do to us in the neighborhood. Your kids are not "just being kids" they are on their way to being cook county jail's tenants. Please, be a parent and teach them to behave with the moral teachings of your school and home.

Anonymous said...

FYI to all about the 2211A car. It is barley ever on 2211's beat. I work on the department in another district but from time to time check to see whats going on in 022 on the conmputer. I would say that over 70% of the time this car is off the beat handling jobs in other beats and other sectors. This car is also always assigned any job at Christ Hospital no matter if the job is related to 2211 or not.

The are also numerous times when BOTH 2211 and 2211A are off the beat handling jobs at the same time!!!!!!

The whole 2211A car is smoke and mirrors to those on 2211A beat. This car is used numerous times for other things.

As for 2205 (the park car) this is rarely in 2211 as well. I thank them when the are but they are not.

By the way as well. They like to use 2211A as a fix post car a lot too. That is they will take the car and have it sit say at Racine Courts for the tour. Whens

Anonymous said...

I'd like to thank the police officers who are commenting on this blog. Those that live in our neighborhood and keep an eye out from time to time to see what's going on. Please keep this information coming. And for anyone reading this, go to the meeting tomorrow and voice this information. Let the beat cops know that we know where they are and that we are not happy.

Anonymous said...

What may seem as a minor call in 2211, had a very positive effect. I too had problems with a group of kids and their bad behavior. Since the police were called the neighborhood has been very nice. Thank you 2211. I know you thought it was "silly" but you two did make a difference. If it helps, we will be there at the CAPS meeting to reqest you stay in 2211's assigned area.

inandaround60655 said...

I'm here, where are you?

Anonymous said...

I was there and was almost attacked by an older gentleman who who was halucinating and was telling me the Germans were going to attack us at any minute how we had to prepare for judgement day... I tried not laugh didnt work though. I love old people..

Anonymous said...

Let me guess; no one showed at the CAPS meeting but the handfull of seniors who are regulars. FIGURES!

Anonymous said...

And how many people showed up to the meeting??

Village Voice said...

How many people showed up ???

Anonymous said...

well village, if you showed up, you would know the answer to that question.

inandaround60655 said...

There were probably 15 people in attendance (only two elderly, one of which took a stand on government politics and stormed out). There were two beat cops, 22nd Dist. CAPS Sgt., a detective, park cop, a TRU commander, and one or two other cops. Some of the points made were cigarettes being sold to minors and where.

Someone did ask the question regarding the beat cars being sent East. The answer to that is that there is always police presence in 2211. Yes, the do detail the car East a couple of hours, but they rotate this with other beats...so 2211 for a couple of hours and then 2212 for a couple of hours. When these cars are detailed out East, there are still marked cars in the area and other police cars, you know the ones with the funky numbers. So not to worry, there is always police presence. 2211 is a HUGE beat. Most crime is down in 2211, the only crimes that went up were Narcotics (Pot)(from 1 to 2), public peace violation (from 0 to 2) and sex offense (from 0 to 2).

Also, if you need police services, Call 911, do not call the 22nd District directly. They are not dispatchers. If you need City services call 311 or Ginger Rugai's office.

Anyone else who attended have anything to add.

Village Voice said...

I did not show up and my reason is that I am not unhappy with the police service on our beat. As I have said before it is NOT up to the police to baby sit our children it is up to the parents to make sure they are on top of things. Last night there were at least 50 - 60 kids up at Mt. Greenwood Park past curfew. Is it up to the police to make sure they were in by 10 o'clock. It is up to the parents. These are victims waiting to happen. Where were the parents. I can tell you where. Alot of them were at Bourbon Street and the other local bars which offer cheap beer on Thursday's getting their Thirsty Thursday groove on. As for the undesirables trolling the neighborhood, as I have said before call, call, call, the police when you see something suspicious. Provide a plate number, sign complaints when it is called for, instead of the I do not want to get that involved mentality.

A quote for all to think of:
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark ...the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

Anonymous said...

Village, I can't believe this but I agree with you! Parents have to be more proactive, know where your kids are, take a drive by and check, provide a curfew time and enforce it. Hug and kiss your kids when they come in, you will be able to smell smoke or booze, talk to your kids, find out about who they were with, where, doing what, talk about dangers, talk about neighbors concerns, etc. There is no place for kids to hang out except corners, the park or 7-11. Too bad the local churches don't open up the gym for BBall or volleyball or even board games, for an entrance fee, use that $ to pay a parent or 2 to chaperone, have set of rules to be enforced, kids sign in, sign out, etc.Church could make $ selling food and pop.
Can a P.O. verify city curfew for me? I thought it was 10:30 on weeknights (sun-Thurs) and 11:30 on Fri and Sat.

inandaround60655 said...

Time has been changed to 10:00 Su-Th and 11:00 F-Sa. It changed last year when all these teenagers started shooting each other.

Anonymous said...

Nothing good happens at the park after dark. I give my son slack because I trust him and he deserves it, but he chooses not to be there because of what goes on. Raise your kids right and they'll tell you what goes on and why they are avoiding it. Mine does!

I agree, there should be other places for kids to go. I've involved my son in every sport possible since he was little to keep him out of trouble and not have so much time on his hands. It works! In addition, the coaches do a good job enforcing discipline when we're not there to do it. I just wish something would become available at one of the school gyms or the park house for them at night and on weekends. Instead, I don't hesitate to offer to drive if they want to go to the movies, mall, bowling, etc. Be creative and suggest other things for them to do.

CPmom said...

I was at the meeting and I am not a Senior. .. mostly young people were there.....i plan on attending every month...I think these meetings are a great idea!!

Anonymous said...

http://chicago.everyblock.com/

This is a good website for finding out what is going on around town. Just type our 60655 zip code in at the top and you'll be on your way to information

inandaround60655 said...

I was at the meeting and I am not a Senior. .. mostly young people were there.....i plan on attending every month...I think these meetings are a great idea!!

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I agree, there many young people there, showing interest. I will be attending every month too, just to know what is going on.

Anonymous said...

Ginger won't show. Not with all the criminal activity involving the mayor and city council coming to light. She's the queen of pay to play for CPD and CFD.

inandaround60655 said...

Ginger won't show. Not with all the criminal activity involving the mayor and city council coming to light. She's the queen of pay to play for CPD and CFD.

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I feel that every politican in this city is in hiding. But in Ginger's defense, and the defense of all other politicans under Daley, their hands are tied. Daley doesn't even consult the City Counsel, he does what he wants. The Alderman, the Superintendent,in order to keep their jobs, are Daley's "Yes" men. Look at the meters fiasco, they didn't even get the paperwork on the sale until it was time to vote on it, now it comes out that Daley could have gotten millions more.. (GREED) Daley is the King and nothing except election will change that. We will soon be the murder capital with all these sh*theads shooting each other with a stray bullet left over for the innocent in the way. Are we beating all the other major cities in homicides yet? I would think that would be the City's first priority, but no, its the Daley's dream of the 2016 Olympics.

Also, Ginger was one of 4 or 6 Alderman who took the mandatory 6unpaid furlough days last year of her own undertaking. 4/6 OUT OF 50!

I know there were promises not fulfilled in 60655, but I believe Daley has her hands tied. Chicago will not spend a dime on anything until we know whether or not we have the Olympics. God help us if we do. 60655 won't see a dime until 2030, you know, all money to the Olympics until 2016 and then another 14 years digging out of the deficit the Olympics left behind.

I just wish there was a Town Hall meeting scheduled. Just so she could tell us herself that her hands are tied and its because of Daley. Tell us WHY Walgreens isn't going up. I'm not angry, I'm just curious. I want to know who is to blame for that and if it's not going up, scrap the idea and let's move on. Those empty lots off Sawyer are hideous. Could we do community garden instead? Kind of like Edna White garden, could we get tif money for that? We make it a memorial garden, like "In Memory of the Walgreen's that Never Was?"

What's your opinion. (Be nice).

Anonymous said...

Love the idea of a garden - with some nice benches to eat the ice-cream from JR Boz!

CpMoM said...

I attended the last town hall meeting and Ginger did mention that the ground breaking was to happen in the spring..of '09. I would love to see the corner of 111th and Kedzie remodeled, but, what types of businesses will fill the vacant stores when the buildings across the street from the park are still vacant?
The Olympics? I surely hope not...
Now, the next point, who is going to run for 19th ward alderman? I heard thru the grapevine that Ginger will not be running again...

Anonymous said...

I work in a citywide unit. Of course we are always sent to babysit the ghetto but my partner and I always make it a point to patrol the neighborhood about every night. We make stops, and arrests if needed. There are a lot of police who are not assigned to 022 doing the same thing. The only way the police have any positive effect in an area is to come down on the the first wave of shitheads, not wait until another englewood is born.

Anonymous said...

Village Voice is DEAD WRONG. Years back a youth officers wife was sexually assaulted between those two sets of tracks. No cars east of the maplewood train could get through and all the cars were east. No supervisors were held accountable, no resonsibility accepted by the CPD but they promised that MT G. cars would stay there and not be detailed east. If you're correct, why don't you get the cars assigned to stay on their beats? We're the only neighborhood in the entire city with no police protection. Thank you Ginger Rugai.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Village Voice is DEAD WRONG. Years back a youth officers wife was sexually assaulted between those two sets of tracks. No cars east of the maplewood train could get through and all the cars were east. No supervisors were held accountable, no resonsibility accepted by the CPD but they promised that MT G. cars would stay there and not be detailed east. If you're correct, why don't you get the cars assigned to stay on their beats? We're the only neighborhood in the entire city with no police protection. Thank you Ginger Rugai.

June 21, 2009 4:15 AM


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Actually you are wrong.
Those people that live on Beat 812 and 811 are experiencing the same thing as 2211.

They pull those beat cars to the east side of 008 and leave a very large area unprotected.
(Cicero to Harlem / from I-55 to 65th Street)

The question that needs to be asked is why is it those that pay the most in taxes get the least in services?

Anonymous said...

"people coming from Gary to rob us" come on 95% of the problem is from 22nd district residents living on the east side of the district, driving a short distance and hitting easy targets.

Naperville has the same problems as the criminals drive the short distance from Bolingbrook or Auruora.

Its about the haves and haves nots. The have nots just find it easier to thieve, rob and burgle then work.

A little pro active police work would change that. One of these things isnt like the other, hhhhmmmm maybe I'll do a street stop.

Good thing that pretty hair gelled little boy on third watch going thru the divorce isnt on 2211 anymore, talk about lack of productivity.

Thankfully I think he is even on furlo or something now. He needs to go back to 018.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Village Voice is DEAD WRONG. Years back a youth officers wife was sexually assaulted between those two sets of tracks. No cars east of the maplewood train could get through and all the cars were east. No supervisors were held accountable, no resonsibility accepted by the CPD but they promised that MT G. cars would stay there and not be detailed east. If you're correct, why don't you get the cars assigned to stay on their beats? We're the only neighborhood in the entire city with no police protection. Thank you Ginger Rugai.

June 21, 2009 4:15 AM

This is precisely why we need an agreement with nearby suburbs to provide emergency coverage!

Village Voice said...

Anonymous said...
Village Voice is DEAD WRONG. Years back a youth officers wife was sexually assaulted between those two sets of tracks. No cars east of the maplewood train could get through and all the cars were east. No supervisors were held accountable, no resonsibility accepted by the CPD but they promised that MT G. cars would stay there and not be detailed east. If you're correct, why don't you get the cars assigned to stay on their beats? We're the only neighborhood in the entire city with no police protection. Thank you Ginger Rugai.

June 21, 2009 4:15 AM


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Actually you are wrong.
Those people that live on Beat 812 and 811 are experiencing the same thing as 2211.

They pull those beat cars to the east side of 008 and leave a very large area unprotected.
(Cicero to Harlem / from I-55 to 65th Street)

The question that needs to be asked is why is it those that pay the most in taxes get the least in services?

June 21, 2009 10:55 AM

The first comment makes absolutely no sense ... You clearly have no knowledge of what you are talking about ... let me see if I get this correctly ... The presence of Bt. 2211 on it's own Beat would have prevented this crime from occurring??? Do you know how big Bt. 2211 is ??? Probably not. The supervisor can help by monitoring the computer ... aww forget it you would not get it anyway ... as for the 008th District ... I can say this ... that on the 1st and 2nd Watch that for the most part the 10 sector cars stay in their sector ... I cannot speak for the 3rd watch. I know people on days and midnights and those police work their butts off. Remember criminals try not to commit their crimes when the police are not around. Gee did you ever think they might call in fake calls to draw police away from where the crime is about to be committed ... naw they are not smart enough for that ... Right??? Just watch CSI maybe it will make you feel safer.

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